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The Roadhouse Dilemma: Can a Remake Eclipse Its Predecessor's Legacy?
This episode takes the pulse of both versions of "Roadhouse," zeroing in on the heart of the film—the protagonist, Dalton. The original Dalton was a man with depth, his past trauma and strategic thinking adding layers to his tough exterior. Contrast that with the remake's Dalton, who seems to have traded vulnerability for invincibility, and you've got us questioning the impact on our connection to the story. Addy and I tackle the character evolution head-on, musing over the lost anticipation and engagement—a casualty of the remake's action-heavy approach.
As the curtains close, we don't hold back on our candid critique of the film's direction and missed opportunities to spotlight Jake Gyllenhaal's prowess. The action scenes, fight choreography, and the rest of the cast under our microscope reveal a film that could have soared but instead plummeted in our esteem. We even revisit those expectations—like the Family Guy-famous roundhouse kick—you won't find in this remake, laying bare how such omissions can leave fans feeling shortchanged. Join us for an unflinching look at a remake that could've been a contender but ended up down for the count.
Hey everyone and welcome to another podcast of Movies Worth Seeing and ironically, we're talking about a movie that is not worth seeing. And I'm joined by Addy Asher for another special episode Roadhouse. Yet another remake Coming off of Dune Part 1 and 2, which were also remakes, but film adaptations from books. But now we have a Roadhouse remake and I was excited for this. I wanted to be optimistic about this remake. I really did.
Speaker 2:Yeah, I've never seen the original Roadhouse. I don't Shame on me. By the time you see it, I will seen it. I kind of enjoyed it at times. I thought the comedy was pretty good. The comedic aspects of the movie was pretty good. I had no idea this movie even existed. The remake yeah it will. I did not see advertised anywhere another prime at home. I didn't see it on there actually. No, I do have prime. Just you forgot you had prime, I forgot I had prime. So that's why I didn't even see it advertised in prime or anywhere else.
Speaker 1:I had no idea this remake was even coming I saw the trailer on youtube, I saw conor mcgregor, I saw jake gyllenhaal and I was like I'm in, I'm intrigued, I just want to see these two beat the shit out of each other. And the movie didn't really deliver on that front of just giving me these two guys beating the shit out of each other. What did you think of Conor McGregor?
Speaker 2:His fighting is cool. His physique is nice. It suits the film.
Speaker 1:Considering he's a short guy.
Speaker 2:He can't act, for shit.
Speaker 1:Oh yeah.
Speaker 2:Look I. There's just this regular attitude of being a dickhead like he is, and he's just being so.
Speaker 1:He's just being connor in the ufc, which is okay and it's good that the movie doesn't ask him or require him to do any emotional stuff.
Speaker 2:Yeah good, thank god we don't but even his comedy stuff is not even good you look at john cena or you look at yeah now we're getting into wrestlers, which is a whole different bag a whole different bag. At least they learned how to act yeah, because wrestlers need to their job.
Speaker 1:The the whole thing with wrestling is about storytelling, so of course, wrestlers are going to be naturally better at acting because they know what the story is that they have to convey after we did Iron Claw I thought the acting on stage there is fucking horrible.
Speaker 2:What acting on stage?
Speaker 1:the wrestling.
Speaker 2:WWE and all that kind of stuff what wrestling did you watch? With Iron Claw.
Speaker 1:Yeah.
Speaker 2:The wrestling that they do on the stage, because it's the same. Isn't that what you're talking about? Yeah, yeah, exactly. I think the WWE and the whole wrestling on stage is so badly acted that you cannot compare that to acting into a movie.
Speaker 1:No, I'm not saying the talking points and stuff like that, but I'm saying when they're wrestling in the ring, they're physically conveying a story. Okay, cool, they're not a ufc fighter. Yeah, their whole goal is just win the fight, win the competition. Yeah, I'm saying with a wrestler they're doing, they're trying to suck the audience into the story. They're trying to suck the audience into the story. They're trying to engage the audience. Yeah, the audience is not interested in the match. They've fucked up. They're not just trying to win the match. There's more to it, it's more complex. So that's why I'm saying wrestlers are a bit more better. There's been a history of wrestlers being better at acting, transitioning into acting yeah, okay, fair enough.
Speaker 2:Yeah, because conor mcgregor is just absolute shit.
Speaker 1:Yeah I've seen worse. Ronda rousey in one of the fast and furious movies is fucking terrible. She can't act for shit. Look with Connor. I think that he's funny for the wrong reasons yeah, because he is hamming it up, but he's also the only one that gave me any entertaining moments in the movie where I was like genuinely, ah. Once he gets introduced to the story I'm like, oh my God, finally this movie's starting to go somewhere the story.
Speaker 2:I'm like, oh my god, finally this movie's starting to go somewhere. But I don't think he paid. I think that's more anticipation based on the original. Okay, cool, this is where the action starts to really take off. But I don't think what you're saying. He did not pay that off. Yes, yeah, cool, he got introduced pretty grand kind of things. Oh my god, who's this badass gonna come?
Speaker 1:and it's actually yeah, yeah I don't think he paid it off, but I'm saying, when his intro came I was like I was half asleep on this movie and then I was like, oh fuck, finally connor's here. Now it feels like the movie's starting to roll because the plot points in this remake. There was one particular part where I was like, oh my god, finally the movie's starting to get rolling and I was saying to you, in the original this plot point happens in like the first 30, 40 minutes. Yeah, but for some reason in this movie it takes an hour and 20 minutes to get there. Yeah, maybe pads out what could easily be an hour and a half movie and turns it into two hours for no reason at all no, I gotta say, though it's.
Speaker 2:It's interesting to see the difference of opinion on that because you have, you know, the original and I have nothing to compare this to because I haven't seen the original. I didn't mind the first hour and 15 minutes. It was slow pace, but it was comedic. It was pretty interesting. You got to see the whole life of everything that's happening. You got a rhythm. I thought the rhythm was you were complaining about the rhythm that was so fucking slow. It's like, yeah, maybe compared to the original, yes, but I didn't mind it. I thought it was comedic. It kept me entertained, entertained.
Speaker 1:I think that's, yeah, that's this is bringing up. When we watched Hunger Games and I was like, oh, it wasn't that bad, the Hunger Games prequel. And then you said to me yeah, go watch the original Hunger Games. Then I watched the original Hunger Games and I said to you.
Speaker 2:This is a thousand times better.
Speaker 1:The exact same thing has happened here, where you haven't watched the original, so you don't know how good the original is now. Mind you, the, the original roadhouse is not citizen kane, it's not anything.
Speaker 1:It's not like anything emotionally fucking riveting or anything like that. It is cheesy, it is pure 80s machismo, but it's fun. The fight scenes look real. Patrick swayze actually choreographed his fight scenes with his co-star and he actually got injuries from filming it because he took the fight scene seriously. This fucking movie, every fight scene, looks so sterile, it's so cgi and like it's sanitized. Yeah, there's no grit, there's no realism to anything. You know exactly when the camera is moving from one scene to another and it's trying to hide its cuts. Through editing you can tell exactly where the cuts are. That takes me completely out of the action.
Speaker 2:Yeah, it doesn't feel it doesn't flow naturally from one moment to the next. It's no, it's chopped and takes the illusion away. But the whole purposes of a movie because you want it, or at least, yeah, that's the purpose of most movies, especially for this one you want to create a flow. That's editing, one-on-one. You don't want to stop the flow for the audience, and it did happen with this movie quite a bit. So that's on the editing side. Perhaps on the DOP side as well, because I don't know, the editor's only given certain footage you can work with. But from the filmmaking perspective that was disappointing.
Speaker 1:That was disappointing because it's Roadhouse. You want the fight scenes to look good. You want to see Connor and Jake Gyllenhaal go at it and be a real down and dirty fight and instead you get this CGI shit. There was even a scene where, like this boat, this canoe from the roof. Why did that?
Speaker 2:get CGI'd? I don't understand. It's a. I was working on a set of Thor and the whole building was set on fire and exploded with explosives and a car was exploding. It was all real explosive, fucking, horrible movie. But at least that action was real. Whatever can be made real, with all space monsters and everything what can be made real, was made real. A canoe falling off the ceiling. Why did that have to be CGI'd? That is the cheapest trick you could create, the cheapest action you could create. It's cheaper than a fucking extra for the day. Yeah, an extra for a day will cost you 700 bucks. Making a canoe drop.
Speaker 1:Look, I can do it for 50 bucks for you if you want yeah, the canoe dropping was something where I was like that could have been practical, some stuff. I was like, okay, I can understand when cgi is used to cut costs. This movie was being released on streaming services instead of in theaters. Maybe a lot of the budget would have went to getting connor and jake gyllenhaal. I get that. But there's still stuff where you say to yourself that could have been done a better way. It could have been done more practical, because when you watch the original Roadhouse, there's no CGI in it and everything looks glorious. The blood and gall looks good. The wounds, the fucking, the facial, the wounds, the freaking wounds.
Speaker 2:I cut my finger earlier today at work and I had more blood coming from a simple little cut on my thumb than seven stab wounds on people. How many times did Connor get stabbed? I don't know. Is that a spoiler? Fuck, that's right.
Speaker 1:Dalton gets stabbed. Jake Gyllenhaal's character, dalton, gets stabbed. Everybody gets stabbed and nobody actually bleeds properly.
Speaker 2:It doesn't make sense. You get a stab in your kidney guess what? Blood is going to squirt everywhere. You get stabbed in your shoulders, in your chest, in your leg, in everywhere. Blood is going to come out, flying on every side of you. I had more blood coming out of my thumb.
Speaker 1:It doesn't make sense. It's not only that, but when you get stabbed, there's usually pain associated with that.
Speaker 2:That you feel?
Speaker 1:Yeah, and so this movie took one idea from the original that Dalton doesn't feel pain. But it's not true. It's not that he doesn't feel pain, he just says, oh, pain don't hurt. It's fucking cheesy guys. And he's saying it to this nurse as she's stitching him up, right, yeah, but you can see that he's hiding the pain, that it's not really that pain doesn't hurt.
Speaker 2:Yeah.
Speaker 1:He's not invincible. In the movie he gets beaten up. Yeah, it's just the movie this remake tries to make out like Dalton's, just indestructible. At one point In the first couple of minutes he gets stabbed by someone and he has no reaction at all.
Speaker 1:The first time I watched it I was like, oh, he must have some kind of jacket, something to protect him, because he knows that people are going to come up to him and stab him out of frustration. Right, for example, in the original roadhouse, right, dalton goes to this town. He takes the job to be the bouncer. Right, he knows that when he goes into this business he's going to have to fire a whole bunch of staff because they're going to be shit, like they're going to be stealing. They're going to be not good fighters or bouncers, stuff like that. So he knows I'm going to be stealing, they're going to be not good fighters or bouncers, stuff like that.
Speaker 1:So he knows I'm going to come into this bar fire. A whole bunch of people take over, they're going to be pissed and they're going to slash my tyres of my car. So you see him have this really shitty car that he drives to the bar because he knows that's going to happen. Yeah, he knows that his car is going to get the tyres slashed and the car's going to get beaten up. I like that.
Speaker 2:I like that a lot.
Speaker 1:Yeah, because you see, him be like he's got a really nice Mercedes, I think, but you see him go and buy a piece of shit car, so why?
Speaker 2:does he have a? Why does Patrick Swayze have a very beautiful mercedes but jake gyllenhaal has a piece of shit car?
Speaker 1:yeah, this is another big change from the original to the remake and the original. Patrick swayze is a fucking badass. Like he's at the top of his game. He is a top bouncer and then they made jake gyllenhaal.
Speaker 1:It was like, oh, his ghost or his trauma was. He used to be a big ufc fighter but now he's washed up, he's hit rock bottom all that stereotypical shit. Okay, look, I understand why, trying to make him more relatable or vulnerable, because in the original roadhouse one of the things that probably wasn't done well is that dalton kind of has a trauma but it's very vaguely talked about that like he had some some relationship with some woman who was married or whatever.
Speaker 1:Yeah, but it's so glossed over there's barely any time given to it. It's an action, exactly, whereas in this they go full deep into. He's sleeping in his fucking car. He's winning these shitty fights by just just by appearing, because people see that, oh, he's a former UFC fighter.
Speaker 2:I like that, though I like his entrance of oh no, fucking way, I'm not fucking fighting this guy. I liked it because, shit, I can expect something from this guy, like you don't know what yet, because I, like I said, I haven't seen the original, so it's like cool, I know this guy is going to be a good fighter, but I have no idea what to expect from this guy. Yeah, so I like the introduction because it created, like this, anticipation for what he's going to do next. Yeah, without giving anything away of what he's going to do, I like that. But I do understand that if you're used to, if you've seen the original and you're like I want to see this guy fight and then he doesn't, it's disappointing. I get that.
Speaker 1:The original does a similar thing, where it's building the anticipation. Like they're showing Dalton. Everyone's like holy shit, that's Dalton. Like everyone's talking more about Dalton and how awesome he is, and they're building it up Like they don't just throw him into a fight scene straight away. He comes into the bar and then he's analyzing like what's wrong with the bar, but he doesn't fight at the end Not the first time he comes into the bar because he's just no, but is it?
Speaker 2:So just a question For the original, that fight sequence when he's against, he steps into the ring and the guy's like, no, I'm not going to fight this guy. Yeah, in the remake. In the remake, yeah, Is that in the original as well? No, the first time him ever fighting is just in the bar.
Speaker 1:Yeah, In the original yeah.
Speaker 2:Yeah, okay, cool Wow.
Speaker 1:Okay, back to it. In the original, patrick Swayze's Dalton comes into the bar. You're just told oh fuck, he's the one. You see the bar owner come to Dalton and be like hey man, I hear you're the best and he's no, I'm not the best. Wade Garrett's the best. He's, yeah, but Wade Garrett's getting old, so I want you, okay, but do you see him in a leadership role, that he's controlling all the bouncers and just like directing them? Yeah, because he knows how to do his job, gotcha, so you can see a little bit of his potential and that is awesome. And it does build up to where, when he does get into a fight scene, everyone's like holy shit, he just fucking. Did you see that? Similar to when Jake Gyllenhaal's slapping all the dudes? Yeah, it's similar to that where everyone sees it and they're like fuck, did you see that shit?
Speaker 2:Yeah, that's the first shot, the first fighting sequence. Yeah, and the only thing I could think of, do you know that skit where the dad gets like slap and he slaps everybody at the barbecue.
Speaker 1:I thought of that too.
Speaker 2:That has to be a joke on that. It has to be. Why slap? I guess because he didn't want to, like, really go for blood, I know, but but it looks stupid, that looks so stupid and that slap skit is old as and this was made after that slap skit. They know that had the effect on viewers Because everybody has seen that slap skit.
Speaker 1:But the slapping and the CGI shit on top of the fight makes it look worse. Yeah, yeah, I just didn't get that. There was no scene where I said to myself, fuck, that felt Like. It felt like a fight scene, where there was like, when you watch the original road house, like there is a lot of blood there is a lot of fucking.
Speaker 1:They had to compensate with this movie, so they took all the blood out but it's shit because it's like if you're to remake a movie that was rated R back in the 80s, bring the R rating back, Bring all the blood and gore. But not just that. There's a scene in the original Roadhouse where this monster truck fucking destroys a whole car lot. And it's awesome because you can see that it's real. You see it all. Just all the fucking windows break and the cars get crushed and it just looks awesome.
Speaker 2:I want to see that.
Speaker 1:See, I'm already selling you on the original.
Speaker 2:I want to see it.
Speaker 1:The other thing, the other problem I had with this movie is it tries to make everything more complex than it needs to be. We can't just get straight up. Okay, he's the bad guy. Focus all your attention on this being the bad guy. Conor McGregor is his right-hand man, which is essentially what the original Roadhouse was. You had Brad Wesley. He's 100% the villain. You know that. He's also intimidating. He always has the leg up. He plays the mind games. He uses the town as his own kind of personal fun place to just fuck around, break the laws and stuff like that. Do whatever he wants. He enjoys doing that shit. He gets off on it. You see the damage he inflicts on the townspeople. You want to see him get fucked up.
Speaker 2:You get to hate him, you love to hate him, kind of thing.
Speaker 1:You get to hate him, but he's also really fucking entertaining.
Speaker 2:Yeah, exactly To watch. Well, that's good. In this he was just an annoying rich young prick. He's just this annoying.
Speaker 1:Yeah, typical young, fucking entitled kind of kid that's been handed everything by his dad. You get told that his dad's in jail and really his dad's the mastermind, but you never get to see his dad. Yeah, so it just totally undervalues him as the villain. You're like, oh, I think this guy's the villain, but I get the sense that there's someone else coming, yeah, and then when conor mcgregor comes in, you're like, okay, maybe conor's gonna be the actual, proper villain of this story, but he's not.
Speaker 1:He's just like another henchman that's brought in but that takes over too much as far as the marketing and and stuff goes, he takes over a lot, but barely in the movie yeah, but then he takes over as the bad guy.
Speaker 2:It's like just because he's stronger does not mean he has to be the actual, the actual villain.
Speaker 1:It's still and the rich family brand. Right, there's all this conflict between this rich young kid I don't even remember the fucker's name, that just goes to show Brand Brand.
Speaker 1:I don't know why I couldn't just keep the name of the guy from the original. This would have made it so much easier. But anyway, brand Brad Wesley 2.0, whatever. This guy then ends up in conflict with Conor mcgregor's character, nox, being like oh, like, what the fuck is wrong with you? I can't control this guy. Like my dad hired this guy and now I need to try and tame him and it's just so boring and makes it more complicated than it needs to be. When all you had to do was have the crooked cop, he could have been the villain. Just say this crooked cop runs this town and uses it to like peddle drugs and shit like that, yeah. And he doesn't like the roadhouse because they don't pay him for protection, so he gets his guys in there to fuck it up yeah. And then you have the owner of Roadhouse hire Dalton to be like I need you to fix the place up.
Speaker 1:The thing that I don't like is all the interesting stuff from the original Roadhouse gets changed and put in place is something dull and boring. It's the same with the colour grading. Like the colours of the original Roadhouse, it's bright. It represents that bright kind of neon lights that you would associate with bars, yeah, whereas in this. The only brightness I saw is when the Roadhouse title card showed up in the movie. The rest of it is like all this desaturated shit, murky colours and there's no vibrancy in it. It's not fun to look at, it's just reality. You want to see escapism. You want to escape in the bright, colourful world of this of Roadhouse, and you don't get that here. The other thing is in the original Roadhouse you actually get to see the bar evolve and go from like a real shithole to oh, now it's starting to get more people, it's becoming more successful. The bouncer stuff there's more of them.
Speaker 2:It's a storyline, but how do they dare to include something like that? Because that's a storyline that actually makes sense.
Speaker 1:Yeah, they don't do that here. Why would they in this?
Speaker 2:we don't get a sense of it's real shithole.
Speaker 1:No, it's beautiful bar say from the beginning, even though it gets hammered and crushed and destroyed every night.
Speaker 2:It's still a beautiful bar.
Speaker 1:It's like they were afraid to make it look shit. Yeah, whereas in the original, straight away, they establish that not only is the bar fucked and it attracts horrible guests bikers, whatever that start fights, but there's the staff that are stealing money. There's staff members that fuck off during their break and fuck people when they should be serving, like that's pretty normal. Yeah, yeah, that's true, still, yeah, and he used to work in a bar so he can attest to this.
Speaker 1:Ah, and the other cool thing is seeing Dalton fire the staff and they get pissed off and the staff that he fires from the bar end up siding with the villain.
Speaker 2:Yeah.
Speaker 1:As if to say fuck him, I'm going to take him down now. I like that.
Speaker 2:It's awesome. That's like a character arc for the shitty side characters. Yeah, it's a cool character arc Cool. I understand that it's awesome. That's like a character arc for the shitty side characters. Yeah, it's a cool character arc Cool. I understand that. I get it. I get it Like Peter should live the shit out of him, but I get it Now, just now. It's too PC Too nice.
Speaker 1:I don't know if it was too PC, not PC Too nice.
Speaker 1:It was too correct, they did another aspect of Dalton's character in the original is be nice, right. Yeah, he's nice to a point he's nice in the confines of the bar. When he's working in the bar, yeah, he says to the guys we have rules, be nice, yeah, he's working in the bar, yeah, he says to the guys we have rules, be nice, yeah. And then the staff are like, really what, I'm gonna be nice even if a bar staff, uh, I'm gonna be nice even if a customer calls me a cocksucker and he's yeah, you're gonna be nice, but really, yeah, it's just a phrase or word used to elicit a response, so you just be nice. And then he says, in regards to fights, you never fight in the bar, you take it outside, which they completely ignore in this movie oh yeah, completely.
Speaker 2:The whole bar gets destroyed every night fucking all of it.
Speaker 1:They completely ignore all the rules that Dalton follows. That makes him unique and interesting, and instead he beats the shit out of five guys and then decides he's going to drive them to the hospital.
Speaker 2:I like that. I thought that was actually really fucking funny. That's the thing Stupid, it is dumb, it's stupid, it's not very justified, but I didn't mind it because it was fun. It's just like cool. Okay, it makes this guy really likable and it really shames the bad guys. It really puts them in place and I like that because it's funny. But yeah, it's weird. I'm not sure if it's in place. I'd made it more of a comedy than anything.
Speaker 1:But yeah, that's what I felt. I felt this movie was more of a comedy. I felt it was trying too hard to be more of a comedy than an action movie, whereas the original is more of an action movie, with some really funny moments, comedic moments that are also memorable. I can quote the original. I can't remember a single quote from that movie.
Speaker 2:You might not be the hero, but you're not the villain either.
Speaker 1:I only remember that because I said to you that's a shit line and I was like, please don't tell me the movie is going to end on such a shit line. And it did, it did.
Speaker 2:All right, so tell me, Michael, out of five stars, what would you give it?
Speaker 1:Overall, roadhouse 2024 is a predictable, by the numbers remake that for some reason, completely changes all the things that were good about the original and then changes all the things that for no reason. Just to make it more complicated. It complicates the story, drags out the runtime and pads it with all these unnecessary scenes, slows down the pacing and is just a forgettable remake that you'll watch and you'll forget about completely. The only great thing about this movie is that it could be the start of something for conor mcgregor. Whether or not that's a good thing or a bad thing, we we'll have to wait and see. There's one thing I learned from this is cut down on Conor McGregor's dialogue. They should go the Batista route Batista who actually can act, though he was in a James Bond movie where he didn't say anything. Oh really, yeah, I didn't know that, but he was like playing a henchman. That's what they should have had Conor McGregor do in this movie Just be the henchman that just sits there, looks like a threat and kicks ass.
Speaker 2:It was great with his physique, like the fighting sequences, his presence, physically Brilliant. He opens his mouth and it's just shit. And then he yeah, it's just, and then also just. His voice just does not match his physique. He has a very high voice, yeah, but he should have a very low voice for someone yeah, high irish accent high irish accent it's terrible.
Speaker 1:You do nothing, you do nothing and I can't take it serious.
Speaker 2:And then he's like smiling all the time he went in and out of accent. He went sometimes to like an American accent for whatever reason. You didn't notice.
Speaker 1:I don't know. He's just got to play roles that don't have a lot of dialogue. That's all I put it down to. You've got to protect these guys because you know that their acting experience isn't there. They're purely there for their star power, based on shit they've done in other movies and stuff. Connor is a good talker in the confines of ufc, but not not in this context. So just minimize his dialogue and then see how he goes. Let his physical presence tell the story, because there was a lot of dialogue where I was like, oh man, if they had just cut, just trimmed a little bit off, he could have kept his mystique and his intensity the.
Speaker 2:The writing was pretty on the nose at points. Yeah, they should have just cut his lines a lot. Yeah, but also for other characters they could have cut so much dialogue.
Speaker 1:And Rambo.
Speaker 2:Yeah.
Speaker 1:Stallone as Rambo.
Speaker 2:Yeah.
Speaker 1:So like the first Rambo movie, right Stallone said there was all this cringy dialogue, mm-hmm, and he said he crossed out like 80% of the dialogue and the movie's amazing, one of the best action movies of all time.
Speaker 2:Stallone can't really talk anyway. Better that he didn't talk. I disagree.
Speaker 1:I think that Stallone, when he has the right story, especially in the Rocky movies, he can talk.
Speaker 2:Yeah, have you seen Copland Copland? No, I haven't seen Copland. I can watch Copland Copland.
Speaker 1:No, I haven't seen Copland fucking watch Copland, robert De Niro, stallone, ray Liotta as well. Copland, okay, but but anyway, the point is, yes, he took all this dialogue out and Rainbow was able to convey a lot through just his physical presence.
Speaker 2:He didn't have. He didn't need dialogue. Yeah, dialogue is such a small percentage of information that comes across. You can give so much more information. Just shut your mouth and have a cool camera angle. That's all you need A thought shot in the eye with the right lighting, with the right kind of sound, and keep your mouth shut.
Speaker 1:That dialogue is overrated and I'm thinking about it now and I'm like that scene could have been really powerful if Connor didn't say that line. Let's put it on mute for a second. Yeah, if you put it on mute and just watch him, oh, you're like fuck, no, that would be cool. But yeah, they just give him way too much, way too much talking.
Speaker 2:One out of five stars. Zero out of five stars.
Speaker 1:I'll give it two out of five stars for Jake Gyllenhaal. I think that I know he's so much better than this. I know he's a great actor. I've seen him in Nightcrawler. I've seen him in Prisoners and I know he's so much better than this. I know he's a great actor. I've seen him in Nightcrawler, I've seen him in Prisoners and I know he's amazing. You can see him like really trying to salvage this.
Speaker 2:But it just. They made his character a very numb character, yeah, which doesn't give him a lot. Nah, so two out of five, not bad, yeah, I'm going to go with two out of five.
Speaker 1:Yeah, this is definitely in the category of remakes you should avoid, but it does make me want to go see the original, especially now that I just watched this. As a palate cleanser, to just refresh After eating a really shitty meal and you just want to have a nice piece of dessert to just be like all right, making me hungry now cleanse the taste buds, get rid of the shit. Could have some ice cream at home now.
Speaker 2:Yeah, cool, I thought I thought the comedy was really good. I thought the fight sequences were decent, but the camera angles and the transitions and the camera movements ruined the whole thing. Some of the acting from some of the characters was very average. Some of them felt like NPCs. Oh, that little girl. The little girl felt like an npc. Um, ellie felt like an npc at times the love interest yeah, I didn't like her acting at all.
Speaker 2:She was terrible in the first half and terrible in the second half. Actually it was pretty bad. So she was just terrible. It was just pretty, pretty fucking bad. I thought a lot of what she did was on the nose. I'm not sure if it's that the actress's choice. Remember her name? Do you remember her name? I don't remember if it was her choice or if it's a directing choice, but you could straight off the bat. She gave away that she was sexually interested in this guy. That's like that with a stab wound that doesn't cry like a bitch. So she's sexually interested in that straight away. And I don't know if she gave more attitude and be more distant from it, it would have been so much more interesting, because then you want them to hook up. But if she already gives away from the beginning, it's like nah, stay away from her, she's a slut.
Speaker 1:It just became that whole thing of wow, she's like really forward with him, yeah, and he's not giving her anything at all.
Speaker 2:Yeah, it took away the magic.
Speaker 1:In the original Roadhouse you actually see them come together.
Speaker 2:You don't ever see that in this. No, the second they meet, she's already with a foot in the door.
Speaker 1:she's already there but like, even when there is something there and they start, it starts to spark. In the original it was all about he had this relationship not work out, so he didn't want to get hurt again, yeah. So there was like a lot of oh I don't know if I should move on and then you felt like this guy was finally opening up, yeah, like you could see that he was trying not to get involved with her. And then he got emotional.
Speaker 2:Yes, with this one they have a different arc. Because he was saying in a moment where they were sitting like in that shallow water with a beer, you don't want to get to know me. As soon as she was asking personal questions he stood up and he was like can we go? You don't want to know me. So he had that kind of because of his ghost, because of he killed his friend in the ring. Um, he didn't want anybody to know who he really is. He couldn't accept himself for who he really is because he has anger issues that when it gets too far he can't control himself, which he learns to embrace at the end. But they gave him that arc instead and they just did not flesh it out past that point.
Speaker 2:It was disappointing Character arc from that perspective of why he couldn't commit to a relationship. It goes, left hanging unresolved. He didn't deal with it. She never asked him any other questions, he never talked about anything else. It was just that's it. And then they yeah, they made out and then next time you saw her she was coming to the bar to to treat some people, and the next time she was abduct, she was coming to the bar to treat some people and the next time she was abducted in a boat and then that's it. That's the end. So that arc, that relationship build up, never got resolved, got set up poorly and then not even paid off. So that's a waste of a character. She was not even needed in this film.
Speaker 1:Yeah you didn't need her, because there was no passion in anything that happened either.
Speaker 2:Zero. So with that, with this very shitty CGI, I would give the movie still, because I like the flow of it. I would say three and a half stars. But I was made a promise with Family Guy Roadhouse Round Kick and did not get delivered, so I'm going to reduce it to three stars. I was waiting for a roundhouse kick.
Speaker 1:And for him to look at the camera and say Roadhouse.
Speaker 2:Not necessarily that much, but I was like Roadhouse, but I was waiting for the Family Guy, the classic Peter Griffin roadhouse kick. Did that happen in the original?
Speaker 1:Yeah, he kicks the shit out of heaps of dudes.
Speaker 2:Why did they not do the freaking roadhouse kick?
Speaker 1:Dude, he fucking rips a guy's throat out, fucking hell.
Speaker 2:I'm going to watch the original. This sounds too good. It's fucking sick. All right, ripping throats out. I want that roundhouse kick. Anyway, I'm reducing mine to a three stars because I did not get delivered on what was promised disappointing yep, all right.
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