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Chasing Shadows of Fame: A Sinister Review of "Late Night with the Devil" and the Cost of Ambition
Adi and I then shift gears to the darker side of fame. We discuss the shocking extremes some go to for notoriety, contrasting a teenager's assault for TikTok fame with the film's narrative of a Faustian deal that's as costly as life itself. We ponder the eerie similarities between this and the plot of "The Devil's Advocate," where success's shadow looms long and heavy over one's moral fiber. The film's chilling subtext prompts us to question the moral dilemmas we face in our own quests for recognition and the haunting possibility of losing ourselves along the way.
But it's not all doom and gloom; we also share a laugh about our own late-night hosting dreams, tossing around the notion of an OnlyFans account as a quirky stepping stone to stardom. We even dare to dream big, issuing a playful challenge for none other than Quentin Tarantino to grace our podcast with his presence. Whether it's through laughter or critical analysis, Adi and I bring our unique perspectives to the fore, critiquing the film's impact and its reflection of our societal obsessions with the limelight. Join us for a compelling journey into the heart of cinematic suspense and the soul of ambition.
Welcome to Late Night with Michael.
Speaker 2:Pigeonary. Welcome to Late Night with Michael Pigeonary as today's episode of Movies Worth Seeing, while reviewing Late Night with the Devil. Hey, everyone, and welcome to another episode of Movies Worth Seeing. I'm joined by Adi Asher. You always say Adi, adi'm joined by Adi Asher, you always say Adi, adi, asher, adi Asher.
Speaker 1:Even automatic subtitles doesn't even know how to spell it anymore.
Speaker 2:It says A-I-S-H-I-E-R.
Speaker 2:It's not important. You're the Gus to my Jack Delroy. Yeah, yeah, today we're reviewing Late Night with the Devil and, yeah, we just finished watching it. Wow, wow, that was an experience that kind of reminded me of like when we watched Salt Burn, or when I finished watching it for the first time and I was just like, wow, like that was an experience, and I have questions. This is a bit more straightforward than Salt Burn, but I still have a lot of questions, a lot of questions what the ending of that means. And we're not going to spoil it, but let's start off with the actual story, the plot of Late Night with the Devil. Essentially, this movie is set in the 70s, the late 70s, and we're following Jack Delroy, who's a competitor to the late great Johnny Carson, who was a big late night host in America, set the standard for the late night show host, set the standard for the late night show host and unfortunately, it's gone downhill completely in recent years with shitty hosts like Jimmy Kimmel. And who's that other piece of shit? James Corden, oh my.
Speaker 2:God, I don't know how that dude got a show, but anyway, the landscape was different. Then you had Johnny Carson and everyone's vying for that title of being the number one, like the king of the late show. And Jack Delroy is a man who will stop at nothing to reach number one.
Speaker 1:And it's so interesting to see how he does it, because it's very conflicting with his personality. Yeah, he's actually a very nice and he's a caring guy, but his obsession of getting to that point really contradicts with his personality and his character the.
Speaker 2:The thing that this did really well this movie was you cared about jack delroy, that he's gone through all these hardships and he doesn't come across as like a one-dimensional late show host that's, I'm all about the ratings. He doesn't come across as like this egomaniac over the top caricature, like you feel that there is some layers to him and emotional depth where, yeah, there's that inner conflict of. I know this is the wrong thing to do, but if this doesn't work out, the show's gone, my career's gone and I don't know. I feel like when you're someone who, like, reaches that point of the top and then to hit rock bottom, it's much worse, whereas if you never reach the top, you don't know what you're missing Exactly.
Speaker 1:It's the fear of loss that you don't experience. Yeah, when you reach the top.
Speaker 2:And like the movie does such a good job in the first five minutes of establishing this guy, his motivations, his backstory and like the sacrifices he's already made, and there's like little references to a hidden club within society that only the elite join. Only the elite join.
Speaker 1:Still the question what is that gentlemen's only club that's mentioned in the beginning but then never actually gets paid off, Like it's mentioned at the end, and it's hoodies and all that kind of stuff.
Speaker 2:Without spoiling the ending. I think that it did get paid off. Maybe not in the way that you expected, but it reminded me so much of Eyes Wide Shut. Actually, eyes Wide Shut is a great comparison for this. You haven't seen Eyes Wide Shut.
Speaker 1:I've got a list of 50 movies still to watch. Eyes.
Speaker 2:Wide Shut. Essentially is like a guy joining the club the Illuminati whatever you want to call it, the secret society but in doing so realises that sacrifices have to be made. Once you join that club, there's no escaping it and there's no talking about the club.
Speaker 1:Almost like Fight Club. The first rule of Fight Club you don't talk about Fight.
Speaker 2:Club. Yeah, joining a secret club, realising it's not all it's cracked up to be and that it has all these consequences for joining said club. I just love that the 70s aesthetic for this movie Like they. Beautifully done Production design, production design, but the way they filmed it 70s aesthetic for this movie.
Speaker 1:Like they beautifully done, like production design, production design, but the the way they filmed. I actually wonder what, how they filmed it, like what cameras they use, because they use the square format like they used I feel like they would have just post production edited.
Speaker 2:Yeah, it would have been something they're not gonna bring back the old 70s cameras to film it.
Speaker 1:Hey look, the creativity of directors takes them to do some weird stuff unless it's tarantino.
Speaker 2:I don't see that being the case I don't know some directors say I don't know who or what the way.
Speaker 1:But I know that a lot of directors actually said no, I I want to be true to the times I'm going to film with that film.
Speaker 2:Yeah, I don't know, I don't see it with this. I feel like it was just a case of them just overlay filters, whatever the fuck you got to do to get it done, because it seems like a relatively low budget movie, it seems. Yeah. In comparison to the stuff that we've watched, and I don't think they had room in their budget to be like no, we need to get the exact freaking cameras that 1977 used the whole thing was filmed in one location, yeah, one location.
Speaker 1:You see the whole place. You turn around. There's the audience turn. This way is the stage you got. You walk past the stage to the backstage and that's it. You don't even go to the wardrobe, you don't even go to the dressing rooms.
Speaker 2:There's no locations anywhere else it's all in that one relatively tiny studio it's a one set movie, like reservoir dogs. That's a one set movie no, it isn't yeah the warehouse.
Speaker 2:like 80 of the movie takes place in that warehouse anyway. It's like movies that take place in one spot, in one setting. This could work as a play for, for example, because of that, and that would be exciting to see this converted into a play. Who knows, maybe it was a play and it was adapted, I don't know Reminded me of the old 70s sitcoms, tv shows Like. It has that cheesy kind of aesthetic. Even the jokes that they make are very timely to the period that it's set in and still funny, still hilarious yeah, but it's funny.
Speaker 2:It gives this movie this dark, satirical kind of edge, where sometimes you're laughing and then you're this is really disturbing and creepy, and then it rides that fine line and it made me miss the 70s in a way, even though I didn't live through it. But like just that's it.
Speaker 2:I just feel like there's something about those late shows from the 70s and like Saturday Night Live and like when you watch them, them back, it just seems like an innocent kind of like happy-go-lucky time. And to put an exorcism and all this satanic stuff in that just provides this great contrast. Where it just it, it comes alive, like when we saw the trailer for this well, like exorcism meets johnny carson or late show, like it's cool and there's elements of like documentary and found footage genre, but without the shaky camera shit like from cloverfield. There's so many different elements from different movies all meshed into one and I loved it yeah no, I loved it too.
Speaker 1:The great thing is it's simple. It's just very simple filmmaking. It is not complicated. It's a simple hour and a half, not all. Yeah, simple hour and a half. It has no unnecessary bits in it. It's nice to the point. It's a nice build-up, no false climaxes or anything. It was just straight to the point, it was simple, it was entertaining and you get what you expect yeah you expect the unexpected I mean yeah, yeah, still some question marks there, but without any spoilers.
Speaker 1:Still some question marks. It was just simple and classic and because it was reenactment of the 70s, it could become like a timeless piece because, there was no modern bits to it, there was no reenactments of the 70s that you can tell, hey, they can only be done in the 21st century. So you feel like it could have been filmed in the 70s.
Speaker 2:You feel that this doesn't have that stupid kind of viewpoint of this is the modern view of the 70s Exactly. You felt like this was the authentic view of the 70s.
Speaker 1:Yeah.
Speaker 2:Where they're not trying to present. Let's ignore the horrible things about the 70s. Exactly Interesting, I like that.
Speaker 1:Exactly. Yeah, that would ruin the whole immersion, but that's unfortunate it happens a lot with movies that are meant to be like in the 70s. Yeah, cool, but all these effects and the special effects here, they're all 21st century style but then placed in the wrong era and it's weird did you like.
Speaker 2:Like some of the effects did come off cheesy, but it also worked. I love the vocal delivery of what's that actor's name?
Speaker 2:david, you said it before david mushel the dude playing the the lead, jack elroy. His vocal delivery is so spot on. You just you could tell that this dude would have studied heaps of david dash. Malchian, this malchian davo, this malchian davo. Fucking killed it, mate. He killed it in this movie. You could tell he studied lots of late night show hosts and just his demeanor and everything. And even when he's backstage or when the cameras are off, he still retains it. So you never get a. There's almost this weird sense where you don't fully get to see him without the mask.
Speaker 2:If that makes sense.
Speaker 1:Yeah, no, I love exactly what you're saying. I would compare him with Robertbert de niro in the joker and not to say they're similar. They're very different where I love. Okay. So robert de niro's character, it was a stereotype. It was literally a character, an archetype created in the mind of the Joker, right? What's the official name? Joker Morgan Phoenix's character, arthur yes, it was. Robert De Niro's host was an archetype created in the mind of Arthur. He was meant to serve that kind of purpose of being an absolute dick, and so it was a stock act. It was not much depth to it and you saw a very clear change behind the scenes very nice, but still a bit of a entitlement. And then when he's on the show, all his attention is on you, but just to make a fool out of you, and where, as the host, that David, david of Jack Elroy, it was an actual person. It wasn't just an archetype, it was an actual person. He has ups and downs. You saw his moments. He had depth.
Speaker 2:He should because he's the protector, see moments where he actually looks concerned for people yeah, and you almost think to yourself, like is he going to reach a point where he's going to say we need to stop what we're doing because this is going too far, our show is going too far, and the whole time you're rooting for him to reach that point, and it is a lot of. Will that happen? Or will he just be consumed by wanting the fame and to be the best that he'll lose sight of his humanity?
Speaker 1:that's the fun bit, because you wanted both both are exciting both are exciting, but you want to both simultaneously. You wanted to get to the point of okay, you should actually call it, mate, like you should call. This is messed up. This is not going to go. Well, you should call it. But then the other. I want to see what happens. I want to see this devil. Is it actually the devil voice?
Speaker 2:you're almost like us, as the audience are in the same position of I do want to call it off, but that is really freaking cool. Yeah, I do want to see that, and you hear the audience. Just, we want to see it too. So, yeah, you're almost dealing with the inner conflict in the same way he is.
Speaker 1:But at least I never felt the excitement for the viewer rating. I wanted him to succeed as a person, but I never actually got. I wanted to succeed and get more viewers and be on top of that.
Speaker 2:I think the point is that you don't want to say that because that's not that important in the grand scheme of things. Like in the first five minutes it's established he lost his wife. Yeah, so like you're thinking to yourself that there's got to be something more I don't know, like from our point of view, because we're not famous people or anything like that.
Speaker 1:Don't forget to like, share and subscribe. Share, yeah, share. Make us famous.
Speaker 2:Maybe we'll get a late show host where we can perform an exorcism on someone.
Speaker 1:I will perform an exorcism on Michael once we get one million views.
Speaker 2:Yeah. No idea how, but I'll do my research, we'll live stream an exorcism, and then you can just roll your eyes at the back of your head, like the Undertaker.
Speaker 1:Who I met in real life.
Speaker 2:Just want to plug that at a random point even though it makes no sense. But interesting point that does bring up is the striving for fame, like the idea of selling your soul for fame. I love the themes of striving for fame and like how much are you willing to sacrifice? I love that in a movie that's set in the 70s. It's such a prominent theme, but it's even more prominent now. Everywhere you look social media I constantly see in my YouTube news feed stories of it's like a guilty pleasure of mine of watching like social media influences that are absolute pieces of shit and seeing them rise and then fall hard.
Speaker 1:He's watching this podcast guys.
Speaker 2:Yeah, and then get and someone's going to be like that's going to be you one day, but you have to get famous to have the rock bottom. He's hit rock bottom and yeah, I can just enjoy the obscurity of knowing that I'm never going to be famous. Nor would I want to be famous really.
Speaker 1:Don't forget to share.
Speaker 2:Yeah, like share and subscribe, let's get 5,000 subscribers? No, but I think that those themes in modern society is a very realistic theme and a big issue with the current generation modern society. And so when you watch this, you say to yourself that's interesting, because it's the same with nowadays like OnlyFans or social media, when people decide they're going to film something and don't think about the consequences of their actions and they just film it or live stream it or tweet whatever, and then they realize before it's too late that every action has a consequence and before they know it, they're blackboard front or fired from their career or something like that, cancelled, whatever. And yeah, like, even today I saw this thing of a kid, a 19-year-old kid, that was as a prank, just going up to people and punching them and then they went to arrest him. Yeah, it was in America. They went to arrest him and he's like it was just a prank, bro, it was just a prank.
Speaker 1:And they're like no, that's assault. Yeah, but I did, it was just a prank bro.
Speaker 2:It was just a prank. And they're like no, that's assault. That's assault, yeah, but I did it for TikTok. And they're like it's still assault. It's still assault, dude. And then the cops are like how many likes did you get?
Speaker 1:How many comments, how many eyewitnesses are there?
Speaker 2:Yeah.
Speaker 1:And that's the dumb part as well like you filmed yourself committing a crime. Because you film yourself, it's not hearsay or anything it's, yeah, it's just the evidence is right there.
Speaker 2:You consent to filming it if you do it yourself, but anyway I digress point is some people are stupid enough to post really dumb shit for views, for attention, attention, and lose sight of, like, how that's going to affect their reputation or going forward, their life. What's the bigger picture? Yes, you're posting something where, like you're pranking someone, for example, but like you're going to gain notoriety but for being a piece of shit, for being a horrible person, and there's moments in this movie where you could see this character kind of having this inner conflict of this. Probably isn't a good idea to do, but I do really want to see how this pans out. But I do really want to see how this pans out 50 years from where this is set. It's still such a prominent theme, more relevant now than ever, because anyone can get famous for doing anything. But yeah, obviously, here you see the most extreme example of it. You see the paranormal stuff.
Speaker 1:Yeah, in the form of like paranormal stuff, but like people's lives being at stake and yeah, and yeah, basically it's going, yeah, doing stupid shit for views basically yeah, it's like you're willing to risk everybody's, even if you don't believe in it. You risk everybody's mental health because people are walking away, people are jumping ship. They're talking about jumping ship. Everybody's sweating, everybody's stressing, people are believing in whatever's gonna happen. So you're like, put your fucking smile on, we're gonna do this.
Speaker 2:And then, yeah, people do end up leaving, and then people end up dying and you also say, like this voice, this producer kind of voice, just being like man, who the fuck cares? Let's, I know, we just want the fucking ratings. Like that guy was over the top, kind of stereotype that was over the top stereotype.
Speaker 1:But also actually, yeah, I don't know, it's actually entertaining because he's like he wasn't acting as a stereotype. It's like, nah, it's just completely blasé to anything that happens. It's like, oh yeah, all paranormal shit happens. Guys, there's amazing performance. All right, let's go so after the show, this happens and dude literally just the fucking satan on your show. What's wrong with you?
Speaker 2:that that guy is just totally disenfranchised he's totally sold his soul to the devil already pretty much, yeah, and so nothing phases him because he's a more honest version of everyone else, because he's honest with himself of I. I know I'm a piece of shit so I just had a realization.
Speaker 1:What? Firstly?
Speaker 2:but I swear a lot. Yeah, but no, I can't night. You have to beep out every time. I swear yes, but not just that. I think the movie implies that jack has already sold his soul to get to the top. He already sold his soul and the price was his wife. Do you notice how they said his wife was never a smoker but yet got lung cancer? And they really emphasised that point, as if to say it's a bit he paid a price for getting to the top.
Speaker 2:Yeah, it was like something was afoot there. Something suspicious happened where she suddenly got cancer, even though she was like healthy as, and. The movie is heavily implying that Jack has already sold his soul to some degree and now it's just a matter of does he want to keep going or is he going to leave that world knowing that his wife's gone? So there's nothing else really as important as her.
Speaker 1:I love the fact that they didn't say that in the movie and it makes you think about it, because usually with this paranormal kind of situation where you sell your soul to your soul to the devil, it's so on the nose because you have a conversation I sold my soul to the devil, or something like that, or you want to do this but you're going to pay for it and it's just it's just implied in that one sentence of and then his wife, not being a smoker, got terminal lung cancer, dying of lung cancer, something like that.
Speaker 1:But it's like cool. It's like that plants a seed for the end to pay off. He sold his soul to the devil a long time ago and the price he paid for it was the death of his wife.
Speaker 2:Yeah, that's what I got from that.
Speaker 1:Yeah, but it's like a puzzle you have to piece together by yourself as an audience member, because it's not going to fit to you, which is awesome.
Speaker 2:There was lots of little eggs Easter eggs, I guess hints at that.
Speaker 1:Yeah.
Speaker 2:That she died for. She was a sacrifice for something else in a way. Yeah, without them just outright showing her pretty much getting sacrificed. Yeah, it wasn't like Devil's Advocate, where they're pretty much saying I am the devil and you are my son, and then actually this does remind me of the Devil's Advocate in a way.
Speaker 1:Another good movie you should watch. I've never actually watched it. It's Jack Nicholson, isn't it?
Speaker 2:No.
Speaker 1:Al.
Speaker 2:Pacino and Keanu Reeves Ah, Al Pacino. Similar in that you've got a character who is being tested and you're going on their journey of seeing, like, how much can they take before they become morally corrupted? Are they going to save their soul in a way by doing the what's good, or they're going to resort to the, the easier path, for, like, fame, money, glory, all this other crap?
Speaker 1:okay, what is something else that stood out in a movie for you?
Speaker 2:For me what stood out? I think the performance, I think the main character, the main actor, David the shloplop, the shippity bop, David, David, I think David getting to see this actor that I've only seen in small bit parts really spread his wings. I'm really thinking about it. I think his performance just really hooks you in because you do feel for him. There's moments where you're you can tell he's hurting and it was tough for him and that you can see that the audience, like he, has to be a likable guy for the audience to love him and you get that as soon as you see him you understand. Oh, I can see why this guy is a late show host and why he's loved by people and watched by millions.
Speaker 2:He has a very charismatic personality that hooks you in.
Speaker 1:Yeah, but it's also his face shape and his eyes. He has very kind eyes and a very soft, mellow face shape.
Speaker 2:Unless you remember him from like movies like the Dark Knight, where he plays a schizophrenic psychopath. I mean, that image is still in my mind. So I'm just like, yeah, kindness, I just keep thinking of him in the Dark Knight, Just like he won't let me Just screaming yeah, I don't remember, I don't even remember I've seen the Dark Knight a few.
Speaker 1:Yeah, I don't remember. I don't even remember. I've seen the Dark Knight a few times, I just don't remember him. I know his face, I've seen him in things. I just don't know where. I know now where, but I just don't remember him from where. I just know. I know this guy. Yeah, and they go.
Speaker 2:It's probably because he's such a different character here.
Speaker 1:He's a different character, he's so versatile. It's crazy, but yeah he has very eccentric eyes and with this he really channels the kindness from his eyes and I think that really helps, making him likable like that.
Speaker 2:And I think that, because he's so likable, when you see those moments of realization where you get to see that he does really want to be number one the ratings and stuff like that you're almost like heartbroken in a way of oh, I really liked this guy. I was hoping he hadn't fully gone that way, that there was still hope for his soul, that he wasn't just totally corrupted by wanting to be number one. There was a hope that he at some point would realize what's more important and just walk away, kind of thing, even though obviously you want to see the excitement of the demon just unleashing, causing shit like I said, you want them both at the same time.
Speaker 2:You want the chaos, but you also like care so much about this character that you don't want to see the chaos because you know what that means for this person. So that is a testament to David's acting. Yeah, yeah, awesome. I think that's what stood out to me the 70s aesthetic, the blending of all these different genres, the cheesiness of this being a 70s late show, contrasting with when things start to go crazy. I also really love the I forgot his name. I love this character. They bring on the show who's just.
Speaker 2:His sole purpose is just trying to debunk every paranormal thing that happens. And it gets to a point where he's so set in his ways of, oh, that could have been that special effects and stuff like that. And people like nah, dude, like that guy's head is gone, like oh, you know what it reminds me of. It reminds me of ben stiller in tropic thunder. When the director blows up and ben stiller's characters ah, this is all a ruse, it's not real, it's all special effects. And then he grabs the dude's head and he's like see, it's just, it's all fake. And he's like licking the blood and he's like yeah, it's just blood-flavoured corn syrup or whatever, like it's all fake.
Speaker 2:And this little bit in his mind of shit. Maybe this is real. Maybe I am holding a real severed head right now and that would be awkward, but this is a horror movie, a thriller, so it's not played for laughs, it's just played as this is deeply disturbing, very disturbing the thing that stood out to me is that every character is so distinct.
Speaker 1:Every character has a purpose, and it's clear what their purpose is. You have the little girl who's just not 100 there. She's possessed by a demon, or a devil, or like inner demons, whatever it is, uh, but it's super clear. You have her of protective carer that plays the social justice character that it's like oh my god, bitch, shut up. We want to see it, everybody wants to see it but she's also like, also likable.
Speaker 2:she's also a liar, because you, when you look at it right yeah, as we look at it, analysing this right the sole reason that this woman brings on this girl, who is possessed by the devil, is to promote her book Conversations With the Devil. So there's an argument made that she's just there for the fame and glory and success, but she's pretending she's not, because why would she accept and agree to bring this girl on there? She's just as bad as the rest of them, except she pretends that she isn't. And I think that's why this is interesting, because on paper you think you know the characters and then the more you think about it and talk about it, there's actually a lot more to it. That's a good point. That's a good point. No one's really there for the right reasons. Everyone wants their 15 minutes of fame.
Speaker 1:She's there to promote her book. But is she there only to promote her book or is she there because she actually has a reason, like I want to? I want to show this to the world, that this is real. I want to educate the people at home to see that this is a real thing.
Speaker 2:I'd say if that, if she did say that type of stuff, or if she was presented that way, I would still see it as bullshit.
Speaker 1:That's a good.
Speaker 2:That's a good that's a good chance, Because if you really know what this girl is capable of when she's possessed an exorcism, you should be totally against this idea from the start and say, no, I'm not bringing a girl to do an exorcism on live TV.
Speaker 1:I'd say two things about that. One, she got pressured into it and two, maybe it's never been, maybe it's never has gone that far.
Speaker 2:She implies that they don't know how far it'll go, almost like she knows that things get really messed up and it's everyone else that doesn't know, because they've never seen it. So they're probably thinking, oh, she'll just yell or scream or some stuff, and that's it. They don't expect her to absolutely go crazy.
Speaker 1:Yeah, anyway, sorry. So the point I was trying to make is that every character has their very clear purpose, right. Even for her, it's cool. Her purpose is to protect the girl and to offer some kind of resistance, to get the audience on board with the host. We really want to see it. I know you really got it Now. We really do want to and we're going to push for it. That's her purpose, right. And then so you have the host, obviously. Then you have the opposition. You had carl michael, yeah, yeah, carl michael. He is his opposition, is he's?
Speaker 2:he doesn't believe anything if you want a show where there was like, like oh yeah, I'd be like that stuff, you'd probably be like nah, this is all bullshit look, I'd believe that it's all bullshit, but I wouldn't be like as vocal about it. I think he was respectful to a point and then it was getting ridiculous.
Speaker 1:Yeah, he wasn't respectful. He shut up when he got told to shut up, but he wasn't respectful. But that's the whole point of this character. He's a dick, full stop, and I'll bleep that out. Happily, he's a dick.
Speaker 2:He's putting money on the line and saying yeah but he doesn't even have the money, or so. I don't know, because he's. He's a showman, yeah, but he refuses to give the money anyways.
Speaker 1:It's like it doesn't matter how good of it's. Literally, when he's faced with death himself he's about to die. It's the only moment where he's okay I, he's about to die. It's the only moment where he's okay I have my money. He never was gonna give the money, no matter how good the evidence is, but point.
Speaker 2:Actually, I thought another thing that was gonna happen. Devil reveals itself and, like some of the people, like amen, because if to say they've all already, they already know the devil, because they're all entertainers, performers, and it's like a knock, a dig at Hollywood, saying like all of them have already sold their souls to some degree.
Speaker 2:It's just a matter of who's done the most to sell their soul. This is the type of film that you watch and then you immediately go to YouTube and you go. I want to watch a breakdown of this. I want to understand every little nugget, every little bit of symbolism, metaphors. I want to see it all because I loved what they were doing and I know I've missed stuff. I want to know what I missed and I love that. I want to know what I missed and I love that about. Similar to when we watched Civil War, I felt a similar thing where I'm like I would love to just watch a whole bunch of breakdowns on this because I can tell that this is big enough that there is room to talk about it for like hours, analysing all these little hidden meanings and secrets.
Speaker 1:It's cool. It has so many meanings and symbolisms and everywhere here and there in this movie and I'm really keen to see breakdowns of other people's. Oh, I missed all of that, especially because it's an american culture and we're not in america. What the, the late show stuff? Yeah, that type of late shot, it was very it's very american. Yeah, yeah, that's a good point and it's not something. First of all, we're not from the 70s, even though I look like it.
Speaker 2:But you look like a 70s porn star, so you could totally. I'm hung like a 70 anyway.
Speaker 1:So, michael, yes, for our audience member. How would you rate this movie? From a one to five Good question.
Speaker 2:Look, I'm going to give it. I'd say like a four and a half. It was really well done.
Speaker 1:Wow.
Speaker 2:I loved the pacing. I love that it doesn't fuck around, it gets straight into it and it doesn't drag anything out. It doesn't go for three fucking hours. I would watch it again with someone who hasn't seen it and just look at them and like how they react to everything. And yeah, I like that. I like that. When we were watching it, even though I had seen the trailer, I had no idea where it was going to go or what it was going for. But by the end it made sense Not 100%, but as we talk about it more, we're understanding it and we're like I can definitely see what they're going for. That's awesome. It was unique.
Speaker 2:I love to reward unique films that aren't these bloated, big budget, slow-mo shit where it's just crap thrown at the screen. And if we were in a different era, maybe this wouldn't be so high, but in the current era and the way films are these days, I tend to rate these type of movies higher because I'm like the standards are lower than that makes it sound like I'm shitting on the movie. I actually really liked the movie. I'm just trying to say this blew me away because it's so different to everything else out there. No, definitely I want to reward creativity and the fact that it's probably not on a very big budget like these are the type of this could have been an A24 movie potentially.
Speaker 1:Could have been, yeah.
Speaker 2:What is your?
Speaker 1:final rating. It's funny. This is the first time you're going to give a higher rating than I. I would say it's three and a half stars I figured a four, but three and a half okay I was tempted to go a bit high when I heard your rating, but no, no, I'm gonna stay true to my own rating, okay three and a half.
Speaker 2:I don't know why it's a three and a half.
Speaker 1:It's simple, it's classic. I think it can be a timeless horror, like my gut tells me. I would rate this a three and a half, but I'm not quite sure why it's, you feel it's lacking something.
Speaker 2:So what would it be? Was it the climax? Just didn't do it, for you didn't deliver in that regard.
Speaker 1:First of all, I'm not a big fan of horror.
Speaker 2:Okay.
Speaker 1:I'm not either, and it didn't have jump scares, which I love the fact it didn't have jump scares. It's an actual thriller horror, not just a jump scare horror.
Speaker 2:Yeah, I feel like thrillers are a lot more. They have to be more creative.
Speaker 2:Yeah, because it's about tension, it's not about yeah tension and this was a slow burn yeah, a quick far, a fast slow burn, which is awesome, not a slow burn of three and a half hours, like 90 minutes, is a slow burn, a quick, fast burn nowadays, but back in the day, like movies used to like, rarely be two hours Rarely. And then I don't know what happened but all of a sudden even fricking Captain America or Superman needs to be three hours long. Justice League four and a half hours.
Speaker 1:Yeah, yes, okay, I'm benching between three and a half to four stars. What did you want more of? I'm not sure it's. It was good, it was captivating, but it lacked something. It lacked the oomph to it. I felt not shocking enough, not, yeah, it's not shocking enough. I thought they could have gone a little bit further. I'm just confused by the very end you know what?
Speaker 2:I'm getting the impression that it was built up for so long and it was so well done if it's pacing that when the ending was coming, you were expecting something really big and you were let down by a little bit, little bit anticlimactic.
Speaker 1:That's what I feel happened. Yeah, a little bit anticlimactic. It was a very quick, swift ending, yeah, and slightly confusing.
Speaker 2:Do you think your rating will change after you start to analyze watch videos talking about the ending and understand it better?
Speaker 1:Maybe I'm open to have my mind changed and please anybody in the comments, let me know. If I'm completely wrong, set me straight, please do. But yeah, there's not much I would change about the movie. It's just the movie itself. I would give it the three and a half. Nothing wrong with the movie, it's just like you're saying, the building up to the climax is amazing, but then the climax itself it's average.
Speaker 1:It's memorable I'm not sure if it's memorable for the right reasons. It did suit the aesthetic, it did suit the aesthetics like the aesthetics were amazing.
Speaker 2:And it did suit the sex I don't know, it's a bit weird.
Speaker 1:I would just say I'm still so freaking confused what the fuck is happening, and I'm sure everything has a reason, but I'm not compelled. I don't feel compelled to want to research them Like. I do want to research and see what I missed, but I don't feel the urge to discover it myself, whereas with Soulburn I did feel that.
Speaker 2:I want to find out myself. Like the more we're talking about it, I'm like I want to find out what the hell this all meant. I want answers, because I didn't get the closure from that ending Like I understand what they're going for, but not fully.
Speaker 1:That's interesting. That's an interesting take.
Speaker 2:And it also like with Saltburn once. I did watch those videos to better understand it and like forums, stuff like that, and you start to piece together your own interpretation and you're like, oh, that makes a lot of sense, this. Actually I'm just an idiot.
Speaker 1:What a revelation of 2024 already.
Speaker 2:I was like wow far out the answer's, like just standing right in front of me, like when you play a video game and you're stuck on a puzzle for three days, and then you're like, oh my God, I just had to press this button and the door opens magically. It's like I know the answer's in front of me. I just don't quite know. Yeah, but yeah, I'm really happy. I think anyone that watches it won't be disappointed, I feel. Yeah, I agree Might be confused, but not disappointed, quite confused, yeah. Anyway, so that is our review of Late Night with the Devil. If you enjoyed this video, please like, share and subscribe so that we can become late night hosts one day and sell our souls to the devil. You haven't yet. No, not yet. I've done lots of other things for the devil, but I haven't sold my soul yet. I haven't quite made my.
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