"Get ready for a riveting cinematic journey on today's episode! We kick off with the intriguingly divisive film “The Killer.” Did its meticulous storytelling captivate or fall flat? We're divided, and you'll want to hear why.
Next up, “John Wick” - a film that starts slow but explodes into action. You won't believe our comparison to a certain Avenger's tactic! Plus, we dive into the world of CGI, budgets, and how they shape movies like “The Killer.”
Our final act? A sneak peek into “The Killer Does His Taxes.” Yes, you read that right. It's a unique blend of mundane and mayhem that ties into our wider discussion: what makes a film truly gripping?
Join us for this episode as we explore these cinematic puzzles. Bring your popcorn and your opinions – we want to hear them all! Tune in now for an episode full of surprises."
"Get ready for a riveting cinematic journey on today's episode! We kick off with the intriguingly divisive film “The Killer.” Did its meticulous storytelling captivate or fall flat? We're divided, and you'll want to hear why.
Next up, “John Wick” - a film that starts slow but explodes into action. You won't believe our comparison to a certain Avenger's tactic! Plus, we dive into the world of CGI, budgets, and how they shape movies like “The Killer.”
Our final act? A sneak peek into “The Killer Does His Taxes.” Yes, you read that right. It's a unique blend of mundane and mayhem that ties into our wider discussion: what makes a film truly gripping?
Join us for this episode as we explore these cinematic puzzles. Bring your popcorn and your opinions – we want to hear them all! Tune in now for an episode full of surprises."
Hey everyone and welcome to another episode of movies worth seeing. I'm joined by Addy. Asia Ashua sounds like a Nigerian. Today we are talking about the killer, the killer, not the killers, just singular the killer. Such an exciting title wasted on such a boring movie. I Can't believe it. I actually said to Addy at one point I took a couple of days off work just trying to constantly Finish this because Addy came to my place to watch it. I fell asleep.
Speaker 1:He had to leave and it actually delayed the whole podcast production schedule. This movie, that all up, not me this movie, because if this movie was more interesting I would have gotten it done, and that's the review.
Speaker 2:I love the movie. Man, I don't know what your problem is. It's slow, it's tedious, sure, whatever, but it's tense and it's such a good story about this guy's psychological journey. It's a good movie.
Speaker 1:I actually said to you at one point, I'd rather watch a dog, a constipated dog, trying to take it.
Speaker 1:For a second this movie because, in a similar way, you're seeing the dog and you're like you know You've got to come out at some point, but it just doesn't come out. And then you're like you start screaming at the dog like come on, just come on, let it go, and it just doesn't happen. Man, and that's what it felt like watching this movie in the first like 10, 15 minutes. You know exactly what kind of venture, what kind of entertainment you're in for, as Michael fastbender Doesn't even kill that many people in this movie. If anything, this film should be called how to plan to eventually Anticipate and become a killer.
Speaker 2:It's called the killer, doesn't call the killing. It's about the killer.
Speaker 1:It's about the person himself who is the killer that's like being like I want to the movie the plumber and all you see is him. Feeling out his Google calendar for all of his plumbing appointments bug on the bunnies.
Speaker 2:That's pretty much what this movie is like.
Speaker 1:I want to see the president right but instead of watching the president do the cool shit like you know, going out to strip clubs and wasting a ton of money or like about to press the bomb- Send a new news or that cool stuff. Instead, you're seeing the president argue with his wife about, like, what TV show to watch, or Watching him wipe his with like five hundred dollar bills or whatever.
Speaker 2:Look, I get what you're saying, but we're not seeing him taking it. We're not seeing this guy. I think we're getting close.
Speaker 1:Because we see him sitting in a shower at one point and there was a moment where I was like is he gonna get up from the shower and just go for a sneaky like post shower? Because it's a shower, but you go for a post shower, then it's so bad you have to go for another Jesus it's not like you see him taking it.
Speaker 2:It is not like you see. It's not like you see me in the news, read a newspaper, I argue with his wife or anything like that. Every scene you see him do something that seems not related whatsoever. It is so related because it's all what's it called preparation for his next mission, in a way.
Speaker 1:I guess it's kind of like played the hitman games no hitman, where you're. Yeah and you go around in disguise games.
Speaker 1:I know the game I haven't played it, okay but you know the idea of like you're given a target and you're given this, the certain area to work in this playground essentially this digital playground and you have to find a way to kill the target but make it look like an accident, and that's the whole game. If you want to, you can just go up to the target and shoot them, but you'll have to deal with the consequences after. So this movie is kind of like watching someone play hitman but never actually pulled the trigger.
Speaker 2:But it pulled the trigger so many times. Yeah, but it takes forever. Yeah, because they make it realistic, like in the hitman games. I'm it's a game. So they made it a lot easier. They gave you the answers like, oh, walk there, press X, walk there, press a. I was like, oh, look at that option, look at that option. It's not like here you have like 10,000 options because it's reality. You know what I mean. It's not a game, it's a pretty programmed what you're gonna do. So in here it's just like you see every just tedious process of how this works. You see every tedious task that is required for his process to work.
Speaker 1:Why does anyone want to watch tedium? Why does anyone say I want to watch a movie where the character is monotonous and dull and boring?
Speaker 2:Well, because it's high stakes that are with it. It's like you root for this guy as well to get his revenge.
Speaker 1:Do you, though, because we don't know why he wants revenge in this movie.
Speaker 2:Yeah, I agree with that point. That's not the strongest point.
Speaker 1:Yeah, the plot is we're introduced to like a house cleaner or someone that gets killed. No, she gets wounded. And this serial killer, this assassin that we think is kind of like a robot he has no emotions or sympathy actually then goes out to avenge her getting attacked and hilarity ensues.
Speaker 2:It's very, went to the toilet. Yeah, no, I agree, the relationship between him and the girl, it's not that it's not set up very well and therefore the ending is very confusing as well. Totally, I agree, that bit is just his motive for why he's in what he's doing. That bit, I feel, wasn't fleshed out enough. But the process of what he's doing, I feel that's the main point, it's the main journey, the process of doing what needs to be done.
Speaker 1:If the process is fun and interesting. That can work Like when you watch the disaster artists and you watch the process of them making a movie. It's fun watching that process.
Speaker 2:Look, I get what you mean and that they'll get me wrong. I feel like they could have made it more interesting. Good, if 100 percent, but I still don't want to take it away that just the tension of the whole movie. It's like you're just waiting there with him. When is he going to take that swift action? You're just waiting for it, yeah.
Speaker 1:Look, I don't want to tear the movie apart completely, like, yes, it was dull and kind of slow, but Michael fastbender is good. Yeah, michael fastbender is good. But when isn't he good? I mean even a movie like Assassin's Creed. He looks good in it. That's some serious talent and that was maybe so we know that Michael fastbender is going to deliver. I mean crap, you could just film the guy's face, just his eyes, just what they did for the killer which is essentially what most of this movie is.
Speaker 1:It's just the camera, like screw it, we don't need a background, just film his face. There's lots of times where the camera is just close up on his face and all you're just seeing is like his eyes just zoning in on someone or like he's getting like that single T action where you don't know if he's like teary because he's happy or sad or what's going on, but it's awesome.
Speaker 2:His stillness is just so magnetic, especially in the restaurant scene.
Speaker 1:It was almost slipping into it.
Speaker 2:It's just thinking of the movie. Force makes you fall asleep.
Speaker 1:Just thinking about it makes me fall asleep.
Speaker 2:Look the restaurant scene. It's, you were saying to me before. It's the restaurant scene is just so slow and so tedious, it could be cut in half and it's still have the same information. Yeah, I agree and disagree at the same time. It's like I agree, you're totally right, but disagree because you needed to understand his character more, understand his conversations, understand his interaction to others, especially someone from his own league. Really that someone that matches his level kind of thing. That conversation, that tension, I feel punches a lot of the movie, a lot about his character. But his stillness, he just sits there in the dark, the silhouette, and you just see his eyes glittering and just like and it just speaks so much.
Speaker 1:That's true. I feel like every actor should study this movie for Michael Fastbender's performance and to cement that. The importance of just subtlety, some subtle eye movements, every nuance, everything that Michael Fastbender does. Nothing is wasted in any of his stillness, any of his movements, Everything has a purpose.
Speaker 2:And as well as that, there is barely any dialogue. He barely speaks throughout the whole movie. Well, except the voice of the narration A lot of voiceover, but it's just his thoughts. He's narrating us through the story, but actual dialogue, there's barely any dialogue. And everything he says to someone, it's so meaningful In a sense, not like oh my God, it's meaningful, but more of like shit. It means something.
Speaker 1:Well, it has that tone that it's meaningful. So he could just say anything and it would still. Oh my God. I took a kite to the park yesterday and I wondered how long would this wind blow?
Speaker 2:God damn, you're making a good point.
Speaker 1:Like that delivery. That doesn't matter what he says, you're just like wow, man, I got to reevaluate my whole life because I'm thinking about kites now. There's no better feeling than when you convince someone of your point when it comes to movies, like if I was talking about politics or anything else wouldn't give a shit, but if I get someone to join my side when it comes to movies, I feel I've made a difference in the world. So, getting back to the killer, directed by David Fincher, stars Michael Farspender. You know we've talked about Michael Farspender's performance, his presence, his captivating. One of the things I loved about the killer was the voiceover narration. It reminded me of Netflix shows like you, where you really get a good insight into the character. As I said, he's got that tonality, that delivery that just makes everything interesting. Even if he was describing a turd, you'd be like just tell me more.
Speaker 2:Very similar to Patrick Bateman. Yes, from American Psycho. Yeah.
Speaker 1:And we were kind of talking about this before this that Patrick Bateman's voiceover narration is more quotable, more memorable, because you could take it out of the movie and apply it to different things, because he's talking about pop culture, Whereas in this it's circumstantial. It's circumstantial to the plot.
Speaker 2:You take it out and you say there's a one-liner to someone. To be like what? Yeah, Like, stop fucking saying.
Speaker 1:Whereas I could just go into a Patrick Bateman monologue while we're talking about music and you wouldn't even Give me a one-liner. You heard the new Huey Lewis. What Huey.
Speaker 2:Lewis, that didn't work.
Speaker 1:Yeah, do you like Phil Collins? That's it, that's it. Everyone knows. When you say do you like Phil Collins, that's American Psycho.
Speaker 2:Look, I agree that there's slow entities in bits 100%. But I feel that point of the whole movie, or a big aspect of it, is he is being tested. Michael Fastbander doesn't have a name because he has seven different fake names in a movie and you don't know what his actual name is. He's getting tested for his patients, right. His mantra is Anticipate.
Speaker 1:Anticipate, don't improvise. How do you forget that? He says it 10 million times?
Speaker 2:I don't know. Anticipate on improvising. You want him to improvise because he's given so many opportunities to act, to make it an action film, to make it a high-paced boom. Alright, there she is, boom, shoot.
Speaker 2:He could have shot a certain person instantly, straight up the bat. He could have, but he always reminds himself don't improvise, anticipate on, improvise right. So his patience being tested and more passionate becomes about why he needs to kill this person or why he needs to do what he needs to do again. We wanted to improvise, but he doesn't. He wants to improvise as well because you see the desire to just get that revenge, but then he holds back anyway. And then every time he does end up improvising, for example, halfway through that fighting scene where he grabs that cheese crater it's like every time he improvises, it goes sideways, it goes wrong, it doesn't work, right. So whereas when you stick to his foundation, which is, again, do not improvise, anticipate it works, except for the very beginning, where this has never happened before it's funny because when we talked about this before, I was saying to you don't improvise.
Speaker 1:That sounds stupid. Why would a highly professional assassin not improvise? Like you don't know what's gonna happen when you try to sniper someone from across a street. What if they go to the bathroom or they start vomiting? They get sick like anything could happen. What if they close the curtains before you realize? Or SWAT team rush into their house because they've got cocaine? Like you got to improvise. I know that and I'm not an assassin.
Speaker 2:I mean there's always room for improvisation, like you have to right again, it's not. So. This better than improvise.
Speaker 1:It's anticipate and try to not improvise as much as you get yeah, which wouldn't have sounded as good in the movie, like the killer improve, try to improvise anticipate, don't improvise so much, try and improvise a little, but not too much, and gets into a fight in the public bathroom. He's like ah, throw a turn, grab toilet paper to tie the guy up bam, elbow to the face.
Speaker 2:That's a way. I suppose that would have been fun. It's a way to go.
Speaker 1:It's shameful. Speaking of fights, the fight scene in this was beautiful surprised out of me because I honestly thought I've accidentally nudged the the remote and change channels or something, john Wick. I thought I was watching John Wick I was like whoa, whoa, whoa, wait a second. This movie's actually got something happening. It's interesting now, like for 50 minutes nothing was going on and all of a sudden there's it's shifting into a whole other gear. I'm like did David Fincher leave the directing chair and and Michael Bay stepped in? What?
Speaker 2:happened. I love that. You loved it so much.
Speaker 1:But the first time we tried to watch the movie downstairs is you slept through a whole fight scene because the lead up to the fight scene, you kept being like it's coming, man, it's coming, there's lots of action coming. There's a lot of action coming again. It's a whole tedious process to set up that moment and you're gonna have to like all I was seeing was just him walking like from one end of the hall to another for like ages and ages, and I was seeing him talk to a dog.
Speaker 2:Okay, look let's say this though nowadays, with a lot of the movies that are just complete rubbish, complete garbage, it's a little bit of set up and a lot of payoff, and because there's so much pay off, there's a lot of the payoff that's never been set up and you're like that's so fucking shit cuz I don't even know what they could have done. That, yeah, they could have done that like they come up with so many ways how they could have killed Thanos in the first five minutes and man could just, like real tiny, go up the bomb, explode him. So simple.
Speaker 1:You know there's so many ways you can just justify to anything Thanos would feel and man going up his though.
Speaker 2:I mean, and man can go real small like oh so he goes like quantum level yeah yeah, that's a good point. I mean there's something like this how many things that people say that's okay. They could have done it like that. I mean, what if captain Marvel put on the glove instead of freaking Iron man, and then Tony Stark would have still been alive?
Speaker 1:bro, people would have been pissed.
Speaker 2:I love the movie. I thought it was the best Marvel movie you'll get and I think that's the peak and they're never gonna match it again. But again there's so much payoff with such little setup and it just doesn't match. Whereas with this movie with a killer, it is so much setup and such little payoff but the pay off is paid off like you could not find any other justification for it. You could not find and just a hole in the reason why he couldn't do it any other way, like everything is justified. That's a bit I love, because you can't find a hole in it.
Speaker 1:I'm sorry, but I'm stuck on this image of a man shrinking down to quantum like. Can you imagine just the scene of the superheroes explaining to him being like a man, you have to shrink yourself down and enter Thanos's or maybe his urethra, whatever you prefer why do you go up the front?
Speaker 1:just go in his mouth something, just go to his mouth and then yeah, but like I, just think that would be a hilarious scene of like all the superheroes being like and man, we choose you to be the one we choose you and then a man's just like why doesn't someone else wear the suit? And they shrink down and they're like no, no, no, you need to do it. You need to go up that ass, because we know that you're prepared for what Thanos's ass will take.
Speaker 1:And then they take over the team and then like, after all this mental preparation, he goes up that ass, that purple ass. And well, he's purple. He goes up the ass, and then Thanos, just straight away, is like, hmm, something's not right. And then it's like, maybe that's a deleted scene that they just didn't put it in the final product, but it's out there. Yeah, maybe this is like a triple X version. How's that?
Speaker 2:Oh, I don't want to think about that.
Speaker 1:Another thing that was really interesting about the killer was and you brought this up to me that they use CGI backgrounds for like driving and train shots and stuff like that, and I feel like once you told me about it, I couldn't stop noticing it. And then you were telling me like oh, and I was starting to notice it and be like, wow, this is kind of bad, Like it's obvious.
Speaker 2:Again, I gotta say it's your TV though. Yeah, but you said my TV is too good. Your TV is too good, like I don't know. You see them 60 frames or something like that.
Speaker 1:I don't know, but most people have. Especially nowadays, most people have those type of TVs.
Speaker 2:I don't the similar doesn't In the cinema. You just see the 24 frames a second, I'm pretty sure and you don't notice it.
Speaker 1:Yeah, but like 4K is becoming more popular, so for that to be like in a modern film, I don't know. I feel like they would notice these things when they're editing. Wouldn't they be editing the film on like a 4K kind of computer?
Speaker 2:Oh, dude, they're so. Wouldn't it be obvious to them? Six or eight K?
Speaker 1:All I know is when you watch this maybe now after hearing us talk about it, you'll notice it more, which is what happened to me. Thanks, addy, so welcome. You feel like watching. You're watching those old 90s cartoon, like those old 90s sitcoms where whenever they're in a car, it's super obvious that they're in like a studio, with like a blue screen or green screen background and it's just like stock footage. That's kind of what it felt like, just a bit better, but still.
Speaker 1:Yeah, like a little obvious obviously a little bit better, but it's the main bit where I saw.
Speaker 2:The CGI was not as much that bit. It's the planes. Every time you had like a skyline and we're going down, it's like you see the plane flying, every skyline shot you had. You see a plane flying by and or even to. It's like it's so clearly CGI that's just like put in. This is like stock image with the plane coming by. It's like that was just obviously fake. That's what threw me off the most.
Speaker 1:And this wasn't like a huge, like box office kind of movie, like with a huge budget. What was the budget for? Do you know? Look it up. I mean it's definitely not. I'm so used to looking up budget on Marvel movies that Thanks for spitting. Yeah, that's what you get.
Speaker 2:You like the killer huh Copy Killer budget. Let's have a look 175 million Really Are you for real. That's what it says here. I mean it's reddit.
Speaker 1:They paid 175 million to make that.
Speaker 2:The film, sorry, does not suggest semi international production location. Have you in with finches, oh God. But even if it just a very specific and demanding shooting style on his crew and cast, I find it hard to believe this went above 120 million. Personally, you looking at the yeah, okay, they're talking here about the inflation, of course. I mean the world is so much more expensive nowadays. 100 million now is not the same as 100 million four years ago.
Speaker 1:Bro, I can't believe that that costs that much, really, apparently. So I see people make outstanding stuff on like tick tock and Instagram on like 50 bucks.
Speaker 2:It's not that good.
Speaker 1:I've seen some good ones. I don't mean just the stupid ones of just like some Instagram model just dancing, I mean like actual short films.
Speaker 2:Yeah, killer budget, here we go. Let's have a look. Did the microphone catch that up? It's going to stay in the edit. You know that right. Yeah probably beautiful. I'm going to emphasize a little bit.
Speaker 1:So just shake the screen or something. I dropped the base.
Speaker 2:Okay, so the killer budget is estimated to be around $100 million.
Speaker 1:US. That's messed up. That is messed up. Yeah, I will say you know what the killer reminds me of the Incredibles. Yeah, wait for it, wait for it. So you know, in the Incredibles, when there's a moment where the family is tied up or whatever, and syndrome the main villain, he goes off on a massive tangent about what his big master plan is and he's going to do this and that, and then one of the heroes almost wax him and he stops him with his powers and he's like oh my God, you caught me monologuing. There were so many moments in the killer where I was like just wrap it up, wrap up that monologue. Like just shoot them, shoot them now, get going. Like just get on with it, assassinate this person already. Like they're talking about a monologue that I just don't care about, that I just want to see end.
Speaker 1:One monologue is just brilliant. Yeah, which one In the restaurant. What is brilliant about this monologue?
Speaker 2:It has a good message underneath, but it's just fun to listen to. It's like the hunter goes to the woods, finds the bear, tries to shoot the bear and misses, and the bear's like it's my turn now. I can either kill you or sodomize you. The hunt of you, remember that one, right? So the hunter obviously chooses life, comes back the next day with a bigger rifle, shoots again, misses the bear and the bear is like you know the deal Again sodomize. Next day it comes back with a bazooka, shoots the bear, smoke. Bear is gone. Bear shows up behind him. I don't think you're here for the hunt, he's here to be sodomized, right? So it has a strong message front underneath. It's like a hint to what the true motive is, or at least what the other assassin says to the main, to Michael, right so, which is you're not here for the hunt, You're here for something else, right? So what specifically? I can't figure out.
Speaker 1:That's the funny part, is we never, ever find out what it is.
Speaker 2:Well, yeah, it's not, no, it's not clear, but there is something there. I just got to figure it out.
Speaker 1:Just watch the movie a couple more times, eventually we'll get there. I just might Good luck with that. I enjoyed it.
Speaker 2:Once at a cinema, once at home. It's pretty good.
Speaker 1:You would make it in the cinema, Bro, I honestly, like tonight, I feel like I'm going to have like a bit of trouble sleeping tonight, so I'm going to put the movie on on my phone on my bedside table. I'll be out like a light Soon. As I hear Michael Fassbender's voice, I'm probably going to start.
Speaker 2:It's a very soothing voice, it is.
Speaker 1:Yeah, it's a very soothing voice. That's not a knock on him, just good delivery. If I actually try to watch it, I'll be asleep in the first 15 minutes.
Speaker 2:But, speaking of his narration, you got to give credit to the first act. The first act, the whole sequence of him being in Paris, I mean I know it's freaking almost 40 minutes, right, it's like.
Speaker 1:I think it's like 30, 30 minutes, 35 minutes before we finally take the shot that could have been done in a shorter period of time.
Speaker 2:Again, depends on the style of movie you want to go for. If you're going for action, yes, 100%, you could shorten it. You can make it like cool, but he's there, boom, shoot, misses and he runs and he becomes the hunted. Yeah, but like 40 minutes man 40 minutes. It's about the killer. It's not about the killing Right, it's about his process. It's about the tedious ex together.
Speaker 1:I'm saying that you could still build up that suspense just without it having to be that long.
Speaker 2:Again, you could send an end man up forget that, that's as hard. I mean no, you can make everything faster, Because every movie there's so much you can cut out, it's a whole storyline. But the whole point of this movie is to see the tedious process of him doing his job.
Speaker 1:Yeah, but don't you find it funny that a movie like central purpose is to entertain and provide escapism, and it's like this movie's whole thing is we're going to provide you with the tedium, the monotony, the boredom of what it's like to actually be a killer. You don't find it funny?
Speaker 2:Look, I get what you mean A hundred percent. I do. But I still got to give credit for it Because I thought even though it was such a long, long first act, it was still brilliant. It didn't feel like 35, 40 minutes it did to me. I was, you enjoyed it. What are you talking about? Afterwards you can speed it up a little bit and stay slow, I agree. After that you can start speeding up. The intro is always slow.
Speaker 1:It introduces a whole character, a whole movie about 40 minutes for a first act.
Speaker 2:I don't know, it's the style of the movie and I don't mind it. I liked it.
Speaker 1:All right, we're done here.
Speaker 2:See you later, guys.
Speaker 1:In conclusion, I think I would give the killer two and a half out of five stars. Not my cup of tea. Personally, if you're a fan of David Fincher movies, there's so many other films that you could watch Fight Club, seven, gone Girl, social Network, fantastic movies, ripley's Game I'm pretty sure that was David Fincher. Yes, that's a good movie as well. Yeah, that is.
Speaker 2:I can't wait for you to watch Benjamin Button Curious case.
Speaker 1:There's no way I'm watching it now. You already told me it's boring as fuck.
Speaker 2:David Fincher. Come on, you love David Fincher, you should try it. Well, even my favorite directors have at least one or two movies.
Speaker 1:You know what movie is about? Yeah, it's a dude. That's like an old man as a baby and then he becomes young and I guess a young fetus by the end of the movie. Yeah, does it ray wind? And he goes back up into the room.
Speaker 2:I don't remember been such long times as I watched it, but I remember it came out at the same time as yes man, kim carries you. I love you, yes man. And I didn't know what watch Benjamin Button. And my mom went to see yes man with me and she was like a halfway, like the movie's so long yet yes man finished and then Benjamin Button, because in the Netherlands, in Europe, you have intermissions, it's not like he's have to sit throughout for an hour movie in one go. You have intermission. By the time yes man finished they went on break on intervention, so he just went in and watch a second half. My mom was like thank you so fucking much for forcing me towards yes man. This sucks. I was like 13 or something 14 you must have been so bored, I didn't mind it that much.
Speaker 2:Oh I don't mind slope, I really don't mind slow bones. I mean like, look, if someone goes out of his way to spend a hundred million bucks or more on a movie and Get a cast and crew who devote an entire year, if not more, to put so much work in, to put a project of this size and Spread all around the world, I feel okay. At least I can do is try to find a good in it. You know what I mean. Like if people eating a dish and this must be something good tasting about it- like the room.
Speaker 2:It's a cult classic for a reason. Oh, hi, mark.
Speaker 1:Hi doggy.
Speaker 2:Okay, so yeah, yeah, what did I give it? Two and a half.
Speaker 1:Yeah, I give it two and a half stars. I think the killer it's not my cup of tea personally, but if you like David Fincher, I feel like there's other Projects he's made that are much better. Yeah, it's a slow burn, it's. It's not for people that like a faster paced kind of psychological thriller Even movies like seven of much faster pace. It's not for everyone. If you appreciate Michael fast bender, you enjoy his captivating performance and, yeah, there's like two or three highlight moments of this. I feel there's some great editing choices and stylish Creative choices that I really liked. And if you're a Smiths fan, the entire soundtrack is just Smith's songs, so that's pretty cool too. Addie, your final words on, or your final rating on, the killer?
Speaker 2:I would say I would give it a three point seven, three point eight out of five.
Speaker 1:We're not doing that. It's either three point five or a four.
Speaker 2:I'm in between three because I'm looking at the seven half out of ten.
Speaker 1:No, you got to do. You got to do out of five.
Speaker 2:Three point five is too low and a four is too high.
Speaker 1:I don't know come on my show and you fuck up my rating system.
Speaker 2:That's how I do, man. I'm a rebel. 3.5. I'll give it no, no, no, I'm giving it a full. I'm giving it a full. I'm letting myself be. I'm doubting myself because you're shitting on it and I respect your views of movies. That's usually how it is. Yes, you do okay, no, I would give it a fork. I thought there's so many underrated parts of the movie, such as the whole movies from Michael Fassbender's characters perspective, and I thought they did it brilliantly every time, the way the camera works, from being extremely stillness from when he's in control To a complete, shaky or out of control camera when his life is unstable. So everything and there's so many things they use the lights and everything is from his perspective and I thought that was done brilliantly, a big part of it. Again, you gave the very good insight to his journey and I thought David Fincher did that Brilliant, brilliantly. Even though it is slow and tedious. His life and his process of how he does what he does is slow and tedious and I thought that was captivating. I thought really well done.
Speaker 1:Well then you'll love the killer to sequel, which will come out in a year's time. It's called the killer does his taxes and it's gonna be phenomenal. It's gonna be awesome.
Speaker 2:Yeah, count, oh it's gonna.
Speaker 1:He's gonna, before he assassinate someone, he's gonna do his taxes, then he's gonna do his target's taxes and then he won't kill anyone and you'll just be like When's he gonna finish filing the taxes?
Speaker 2:So gonna cut this out.
Speaker 1:Why I think it's hilarious. All right, guys, if you enjoyed the show, please like, share and subscribe for more content like this, and if you enjoyed the killer or you didn't enjoy it, comment below and share your thoughts on the killer. That's it for us, guys.
Speaker 2:It's so much enthusiasm. Thank you for watching.